The action
DETROIT (AP) — An area with one of the largest Muslim communities in the United States is bracing itself for a 24-hour prayer rally by a group that counts Islam among the ills facing the nation.
The gathering in Detroit at Ford Field, the stadium where the Detroit Lions play, starts Friday evening and is designed to tackle issues such as the economy, racial strife, same-sex relationships and abortion. But the decade-old organization known as TheCall has said Detroit is a "microcosm of our national crisis" in all areas, including "the rising tide of the Islamic movement."
The reaction
People are saying:
1) Why is this a story? If it was a Muslim prayer event, and Christians or Jews came out against it, it would be racism, but because the largest organized religion in America has a prayer event, Muslims are concerned? Shouldn't atheists, witches and wickens, druids and pagans be just as concerned? Typical American media scare tactics...be afraid, the boogeyman is coming, but the government will protect you. I'm more scared by the 'qualified' candidates running for President.
2) It's not just "someone" holding the event, it's adherents of a religion with a proven history of violence going back to its founding. Even a cursory glance at history will reveal that Christians are aggressively intolerant of those who are not followers of their particular brand of Christianity.
3) Unfortunately, most muslims living in America already consider themselves Muslim First, American Second. (49% vs 26%). The stats for christians are 46% vs 46%. (Pew Poll for 2011).
In neighbouring Canada, according to recent poll, 65% of canadian muslims want the implementation of some kind of Sharia Law, while 35% refuse to repudiate Al Qaeda. The data shows that there is something wrong with muslims.
Clear muslim majorities in Europe, also consider themselves Muslim First, citizen of their respective country second (according to Pew Polls). On the other hand, clear majorities of christians in european countries consider themselves citizens of their respective country first, christian second.
Even in muslim countries, the majority of muslims consider themselves Muslim First, citizen of their country second.
There were some 40 terrorist plots to attack the United States by american muslims in cooperation with foreign muslim entities hostile to the US during the last ten years.
In contrast, only two German-Americans citizens participated in a planned sabotage plot during World War II, along with six Germans who had worked in the United States, even though roughly 20 percent of the country had German ancestry. There were almost no examples of cooperation by Japanese-Americans with Imperial Japan’s forces.
There were no cases of americans joining Serbia during the US aerial attacks against this country, and no attacks prepared by american serbs or ortodox chritians in order to revenge the US bombings, although the US sided with muslims against christians in this war.
4) Fundamentalists are the same all over whether they be christian, muslim, hindu or whatever. Bigots all and the curse of humanity. But only in the US and the muslim countries is such an event possible. That proves my point, the same crock of s..
5) I consider any person or religion, that wants to kill me, a major threat.
6) So you must then understand why the muslims feel threatened...
7) Islam demands that non-Muslims be converted, subjocated, or killed. It's quite clearly written in the Quran, and many, many texts written by Muslim scholars. Just because most Muslims don't adhere put this orthodoxy into practice, there's a huge number of Muslims who have no problem with this ideology.
It's not just a fringe. Most Islamic coutries impose the death penalty for converting from Islam to another religion. Think about that.
8) this is how the old-world felt when Christians were cutting the heads of off non-believers—all monotheism is domination by force and brutality—study the history of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam: get rid of all of them!
9) 150,000 to 200,000 Muslims... so detroit is 30% muslim?
10) Yes but do you know HOW they got here? You can thank good ole Henry Ford for that one!
His belief was the people who normally live in hot climates (like the middle east) would fair better in his factories were melting metals, smelting etc were involved. So he grabs a bunch of them and offers them jobs. They have been here for awhile and have been growing ever since.
So whom are you thank for this? A white man and his greed!
DETROIT (AP) — An area with one of the largest Muslim communities in the United States is bracing itself for a 24-hour prayer rally by a group that counts Islam among the ills facing the nation.
The gathering in Detroit at Ford Field, the stadium where the Detroit Lions play, starts Friday evening and is designed to tackle issues such as the economy, racial strife, same-sex relationships and abortion. But the decade-old organization known as TheCall has said Detroit is a "microcosm of our national crisis" in all areas, including "the rising tide of the Islamic movement."
The reaction
People are saying:
1) Why is this a story? If it was a Muslim prayer event, and Christians or Jews came out against it, it would be racism, but because the largest organized religion in America has a prayer event, Muslims are concerned? Shouldn't atheists, witches and wickens, druids and pagans be just as concerned? Typical American media scare tactics...be afraid, the boogeyman is coming, but the government will protect you. I'm more scared by the 'qualified' candidates running for President.
2) It's not just "someone" holding the event, it's adherents of a religion with a proven history of violence going back to its founding. Even a cursory glance at history will reveal that Christians are aggressively intolerant of those who are not followers of their particular brand of Christianity.
3) Unfortunately, most muslims living in America already consider themselves Muslim First, American Second. (49% vs 26%). The stats for christians are 46% vs 46%. (Pew Poll for 2011).
In neighbouring Canada, according to recent poll, 65% of canadian muslims want the implementation of some kind of Sharia Law, while 35% refuse to repudiate Al Qaeda. The data shows that there is something wrong with muslims.
Clear muslim majorities in Europe, also consider themselves Muslim First, citizen of their respective country second (according to Pew Polls). On the other hand, clear majorities of christians in european countries consider themselves citizens of their respective country first, christian second.
Even in muslim countries, the majority of muslims consider themselves Muslim First, citizen of their country second.
There were some 40 terrorist plots to attack the United States by american muslims in cooperation with foreign muslim entities hostile to the US during the last ten years.
In contrast, only two German-Americans citizens participated in a planned sabotage plot during World War II, along with six Germans who had worked in the United States, even though roughly 20 percent of the country had German ancestry. There were almost no examples of cooperation by Japanese-Americans with Imperial Japan’s forces.
There were no cases of americans joining Serbia during the US aerial attacks against this country, and no attacks prepared by american serbs or ortodox chritians in order to revenge the US bombings, although the US sided with muslims against christians in this war.
4) Fundamentalists are the same all over whether they be christian, muslim, hindu or whatever. Bigots all and the curse of humanity. But only in the US and the muslim countries is such an event possible. That proves my point, the same crock of s..
5) I consider any person or religion, that wants to kill me, a major threat.
6) So you must then understand why the muslims feel threatened...
7) Islam demands that non-Muslims be converted, subjocated, or killed. It's quite clearly written in the Quran, and many, many texts written by Muslim scholars. Just because most Muslims don't adhere put this orthodoxy into practice, there's a huge number of Muslims who have no problem with this ideology.
It's not just a fringe. Most Islamic coutries impose the death penalty for converting from Islam to another religion. Think about that.
8) this is how the old-world felt when Christians were cutting the heads of off non-believers—all monotheism is domination by force and brutality—study the history of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam: get rid of all of them!
9) 150,000 to 200,000 Muslims... so detroit is 30% muslim?
10) Yes but do you know HOW they got here? You can thank good ole Henry Ford for that one!
His belief was the people who normally live in hot climates (like the middle east) would fair better in his factories were melting metals, smelting etc were involved. So he grabs a bunch of them and offers them jobs. They have been here for awhile and have been growing ever since.
So whom are you thank for this? A white man and his greed!
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